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	<title>Comments on: Trani and Tobacco</title>
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		<title>By: Nanette</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-5528</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear JK,

Please explain how it is not investigative journalism to have researched the university president&#039;s personal financial gain from increasing the number of smokers.  When you write that the piece is not based in fact, please specify what assertions within the journalist&#039;s piece you challenge as not being fact?  Which facts do you wish to add to the discussion to refute the journalist?

How is it shown to be a fact to assert what &quot;most believe&quot; about VCU setting up to research how to help people break the powerful addiction to nicotine, or how to make tobacco smoking or chewing &quot;healthier&quot;?

Please do go on &amp; on.  Especially please clarify how to know whether there is such a thing as good or evil, or how those adjectives might be applied to a corporation.  Not saying, mind you, that there are no answers, just that it is hard to tell how you are using the terms from the contribution to the discussion so far.

For example, if VCU were astonishingly found to be funding professorships  on, say, heroin smuggling, or slavery, or blackmail, or just snake oil, would that taint the $ from the business relationship?  How about funding from marijuana sales, if it is one of the area&#039;s cash crops, creating jobs that contribute to many in the local economy?  How about something that was once legal, such as cocaine in Coca Cola; would it still be a good university investment after it is recognized as a dangerous habit?  Gambling?  Is it ever wrong to take $?

It will help the supporters of VCU work together to see where we believe the same things, &amp; where is the line that divides the two definitions when we are using one word to mean different things, even opposite things, like what is &quot;evil&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear JK,</p>
<p>Please explain how it is not investigative journalism to have researched the university president&#8217;s personal financial gain from increasing the number of smokers.  When you write that the piece is not based in fact, please specify what assertions within the journalist&#8217;s piece you challenge as not being fact?  Which facts do you wish to add to the discussion to refute the journalist?</p>
<p>How is it shown to be a fact to assert what &#8220;most believe&#8221; about VCU setting up to research how to help people break the powerful addiction to nicotine, or how to make tobacco smoking or chewing &#8220;healthier&#8221;?</p>
<p>Please do go on &amp; on.  Especially please clarify how to know whether there is such a thing as good or evil, or how those adjectives might be applied to a corporation.  Not saying, mind you, that there are no answers, just that it is hard to tell how you are using the terms from the contribution to the discussion so far.</p>
<p>For example, if VCU were astonishingly found to be funding professorships  on, say, heroin smuggling, or slavery, or blackmail, or just snake oil, would that taint the $ from the business relationship?  How about funding from marijuana sales, if it is one of the area&#8217;s cash crops, creating jobs that contribute to many in the local economy?  How about something that was once legal, such as cocaine in Coca Cola; would it still be a good university investment after it is recognized as a dangerous habit?  Gambling?  Is it ever wrong to take $?</p>
<p>It will help the supporters of VCU work together to see where we believe the same things, &amp; where is the line that divides the two definitions when we are using one word to mean different things, even opposite things, like what is &#8220;evil&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richmond Greens &#187; Sicko 2- the Richmond Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-5514</link>
		<dc:creator>Richmond Greens &#187; Sicko 2- the Richmond Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have a feeling it is just the tip of the iceberg. And of course, this announcement&#8230;a bit late, don&#8217;t you think? But I guess better than never.When will this country&#8217;s citizens rise [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have a feeling it is just the tip of the iceberg. And of course, this announcement&#8230;a bit late, don&#8217;t you think? But I guess better than never.When will this country&#8217;s citizens rise [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-3850</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, all those hillbillies at the New York Times, Richmond.com, and Bacon&#039;s Rebellion blog also.

How dare these hillbillies hold Trani and VCU responsible for their own actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, all those hillbillies at the New York Times, Richmond.com, and Bacon&#8217;s Rebellion blog also.</p>
<p>How dare these hillbillies hold Trani and VCU responsible for their own actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel M. Laenker</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Laenker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, more about the wickedness of my school! Good to know someone at an NGO somewhere agrees with hillbillies about the unbelievable evils of accepting money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, more about the wickedness of my school! Good to know someone at an NGO somewhere agrees with hillbillies about the unbelievable evils of accepting money.</p>
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		<title>By: Oregon Hill &#187; Trani and Tobacco Part 2 - Richmond, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>Oregon Hill &#187; Trani and Tobacco Part 2 - Richmond, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is following up on this story.   Posted by Scott at 12:05AM under RVANews-news, community, schools [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is following up on this story.   Posted by Scott at 12:05AM under RVANews-news, community, schools [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is not investigative journalism, nor is the piece based in fact.

PM is not an evil company, as the &quot;reporter&quot; makes it out to be.  Both it and Universal Tobacco are major local employers that provide jobs and contribute to the local economy.

Trani&#039;s relationship with &quot;Big Tobacco&quot; is a positive for VCU, not a negative.  The PM complex at the biotech park is set up to research ways, most believe, to help smokers  quit or develop new products that are healthier.  It is not a tobacco plant.  Building a business is about relationships and we should be thankful Trani has those in place.  

Yes, tobacco kills.  So do guns, alcohol and a range of other things, oh I could go on and on.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not investigative journalism, nor is the piece based in fact.</p>
<p>PM is not an evil company, as the &#8220;reporter&#8221; makes it out to be.  Both it and Universal Tobacco are major local employers that provide jobs and contribute to the local economy.</p>
<p>Trani&#8217;s relationship with &#8220;Big Tobacco&#8221; is a positive for VCU, not a negative.  The PM complex at the biotech park is set up to research ways, most believe, to help smokers  quit or develop new products that are healthier.  It is not a tobacco plant.  Building a business is about relationships and we should be thankful Trani has those in place.  </p>
<p>Yes, tobacco kills.  So do guns, alcohol and a range of other things, oh I could go on and on&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Oregon Hill &#187; Pantele and the Schools - Richmond, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Oregon Hill &#187; Pantele and the Schools - Richmond, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] building and standards (hello local media, they just won NATIONAL RECOGNITION!). Do NOT let Trani and VCU decide the future of Open High, but hopefully keep allowing Open/Community students attend [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] building and standards (hello local media, they just won NATIONAL RECOGNITION!). Do NOT let Trani and VCU decide the future of Open High, but hopefully keep allowing Open/Community students attend [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Autumn</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic.  As a newcomer to the area whose husband will be working in biotechnology at VCU, this is great information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic.  As a newcomer to the area whose husband will be working in biotechnology at VCU, this is great information.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Richmonder</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Richmonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article and a good perspective to share since I doubt many give much thought to it.  However, I have to think that Trani is probably seeking out funds because the state isn&#039;t providing them.  I didn&#039;t go to VCU, but I have known many people who have attended for specific programs that the school is known for.  All of them complained the VCU is underfunded with poor resources and that while the faculty are great, they are stretched too thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article and a good perspective to share since I doubt many give much thought to it.  However, I have to think that Trani is probably seeking out funds because the state isn&#8217;t providing them.  I didn&#8217;t go to VCU, but I have known many people who have attended for specific programs that the school is known for.  All of them complained the VCU is underfunded with poor resources and that while the faculty are great, they are stretched too thin.</p>
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		<title>By: irina</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>irina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyone who follows the industry knows that currying favor with, and maintaining relationships with major medical and research institutions is key to the tobacco industry’s ability to maintain credibility, and hence power, among legislators and regulators. VCU is certainly helping the industry on that count.&quot;

The statement above really sounds like it was written by one of those conspiracy theorists.  It should be noted that Anne Landman writes for PR Watch, project of the activist group &quot;Center for Media and Democracy&quot;.  You may or may not agree with their politics, but the information coming from this group is slanted towards their own point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone who follows the industry knows that currying favor with, and maintaining relationships with major medical and research institutions is key to the tobacco industry’s ability to maintain credibility, and hence power, among legislators and regulators. VCU is certainly helping the industry on that count.&#8221;</p>
<p>The statement above really sounds like it was written by one of those conspiracy theorists.  It should be noted that Anne Landman writes for PR Watch, project of the activist group &#8220;Center for Media and Democracy&#8221;.  You may or may not agree with their politics, but the information coming from this group is slanted towards their own point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambivalent Richmonder</title>
		<link>http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambivalent Richmonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  Good investigative journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  Good investigative journalism.</p>
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